care deal. and the ryan budget deferred all of the cuts in social security and medicare way out in the future. >> well, first of all, you're talking about social security and medicare, and the ryan budget was silent on social security. actually thought we should have talked about it. those things are always in the future. you start adjusting eligibility rates over time. >> what are the ten-year entitlement savings right now? >> well, frankly, honestly, if you did lower the age, number one, that would start right at the very end of that window. secondly, you can do -- we want means testing. we've never made any bones about that. that hits mostly upper income people. but we haven't seen it and we haven't been able to get it through. the cpi thing is another one. there's a whole variety of things you can do. they've got to be done in a bipartisan way. they've got to protect current recipients and be phased in. >> do you think that republicans -- entitlement -- >> in fact if you look at the letter s